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bgreen

Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: Location: Qld. Oz
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kage Dolphin Glider

Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Prone alaias! Too bad there's not a name for a board like that.  |
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bgreen

Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: Location: Qld. Oz
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Kage,
I know you are stirring, but I used the term "prone alaia" on Swaylocks because we know paipo can be ridden in big hollow waves and there is some footage of stand-up alaia being ridden in hollow waves (the video of the guy with an alaia on the deck of a SUP which he jettisons to ride the alaia being one example).
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rodndtube Dolphin Glider

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 690 Location: USA, MD, Baltimore
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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The ancient Hawaiian name for a prone alaia board may have been kioe. Prone style riding is called kipapa. From my research and reading over the past few months the two principal terms for ancient Hawaiian surfing boards (the word was used for mean all forms including prone, sitting, kneeling and standing), were olo and alaia.
It has generally been understood that the olo is a large board used by the Islands' aristocracy and the alaia was a smaller board used by the common folk, it seems that the real distinction was the plane shapes of the boards and the performance characteristics of the alaia (ability to "hot dog" ride the board at an angle and to turn). Come to think of it, the aristocracy sorta needed huge boards to ride the gentle, easy breaking waves because the aristocratic people were huge and were expected to become humongous! It is kind of hard to imagine a 400 lb. person on a thin alaia. Now I digress.
Turns out, according to many sources, that the alaia were as often ridden prone as in other positions. _________________ rodNDtube
"Prone to ride"
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OG-AZN
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: Location: Norcal
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the full length video that goes w/ the photos. Good stuff.
http://vimeo.com/6573441 |
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Soulglider
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts:
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: x |
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google paipo. most of the hits go to brazil. could paipo be derived from portuguese or spanish? i tire of using paipo and bellyboard. everyone that asks wants to know about the bodyboard. its weird, it doesnt hurt my feelings like i thought it would!  _________________ soulglider
http://soulgliderpaipo.blogspot.com |
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HIpaipo

Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: Location: Oahu,Ewa Beach
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Nice video, didn't think that rollos were possibe on paipo's until I saw the video. Kinda looked like pipeline with the left break and photog at 6:17 in the video. _________________ " NO SCARED UM, GO GET UM! " |
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rodndtube Dolphin Glider

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 690 Location: USA, MD, Baltimore
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: x |
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Soulglider wrote: | google paipo. most of the hits go to brazil. could paipo be derived from portuguese or spanish? i tire of using paipo and bellyboard. everyone that asks wants to know about the bodyboard. its weird, it doesnt hurt my feelings like i thought it would!  |
I don't get too many for Brazil - however, I don have to add a remove paramenter to keep from getting the Japanese/smoke hits (e.g., see http://www.paipo.nl/images/pop_332.jpg).
One of the surf clubs Uruguay refer to stand-up surfing as "paipo" which is probably one of those weird word/thing inversions like the mapmaker that reversed Puerto Rico (rich port) and San Juan (Saint John). See http://www.paipo.com.uy/ _________________ rodNDtube
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kage Dolphin Glider

Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I paipo all the time and I don't smoke so I guess it works. |
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Nels Dolphin Glider
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Things are starting to get complicated again...
I'm confused by the fact that paipo/bellyboard/handboard/pronecrafft interest me but the whole finless wood standup board thing just does not register...my "first reaction" is either disinterest or actively questioning the point. I assume it's just me or the stage I'm in.
I find at times like these beer can help. |
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mrmike

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: Location: coronado, ca
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Soulglider
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Nels Dolphin Glider
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County, California
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Ah, beautiful vid there. That's just about where I'm at these days...
Seriously.
I have too many years of experience to desire their level of craftsmanship and materials though. |
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mrmike

Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: Location: coronado, ca
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if their mom knows the door to the chicken coop is missing. I just love it  _________________ PAIPO ON
blog http://mrmikespaipos.blogspot.com |
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rodndtube Dolphin Glider

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 690 Location: USA, MD, Baltimore
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Time for another beer! _________________ rodNDtube
"Prone to ride"
I love my papa li`ili`i |
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