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rodndtube · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: WRV wants my ass!

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I received a really stupid email from Wave Riding Vehicles today. They allege that I am using their trademark term "wave riding vehicles" on one (or more) of my web pages (the MyPaipoBoards home page as it turns out). The violation in question is a description of the Nels Norene's Vagabond site:

"vagabondsurf.com is an open forum for the entire surfing world, featuring articles and pics of alternative wave riding vehicles and an alternative view of the surfing industry"

I really feel sorry for them to have wasted their time like that. In a reply to WRV, I suggested they use their lawyers to distinguish trademarks, servicemarks and copyrights, the the enforceble definition of trademark. Dorks!

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gcs · Matt Master Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 25

Call your next board "the ultimate driving machine" and see if BMW sends its lawyers too! Laughing

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Nels · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject:

Sorry to hear the old website is bringing heartache your way, Rod. I just went through a billion viagra ads looking to see if they sent me anything too, but so far, so good. Maybe they are just pissed you didn't get a WRV paipo, or maybe they are looking for new revenue to get them through a Clark foam shortage.

My site won't be up forever, but if I start getting a bunch of yuppie lawyer crap I might have to rethink the whole re-entrenchment program I'm on. Fortune favors the brave, eh?

rodndtube · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Nels. LOL, I received a follow-up response from WRV this evening. I think they need to go waveriding or something. Her it is:

Dear Sir,

We received your response dated 1/9/06.

Wave Riding Vehicles diligently maintains the rights to it's Trademarks. The copyright referred to is in regards to the content on the website. There is always a Trademark accompanying our logos. We, including our counsel, are quite familiar with responses of all types and the subsequent actions that may be necessary. This is a friendly notice. Please proceed accordingly.

Sincerely,
U.S. Fiberglass Corporate Office
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tumak · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject:

Hmmm... Rod, how about changing it to "wave riding apparati." Ha ha ha!

Nels · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:46 am Post subject:

Poobah · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:45 am Post subject:

There's a Surf Pulse editorial at
http://www.surfpulse.com/2002/downtheline/dtl-12.shtml
that also uses the phrase "alternative wave riding vehicles." It's about the discrimination towards non pedestrian surfers. I wonder if they were painted with the same brush as Rod. What's next for Rod? Will Hot Rod Magazine be after his first name? Worse yet...maybe someone owns the word "paipo."

PaipoJim · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject:

rodndtube · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:39 am Post subject:

I changed it a few days ago to "vehicles for wave riding" (bugs the crap out of me since my workplace just HATES those passive voice prepositional phrases!). Still in "dialogue" over this really stupid BS. And certainly can't imagine their willingness to spend lawyering hours over something so inconsequential... and something they would lose if I hired a lawyer. One thing for sure... this ain't Bob White Surfboards!
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Nels · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject:

tumak · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Paipo Jim, for that correction. I didn't take the time to check that out before posting.

Rod, when I lightheartedly suggested that change, I didn't think you were really going to change your site that quickly! It sounded to me as though you were going to fight these dweebs! Just taking the course of least resistance is often the best idea; I think you did the right thing.

rodndtube · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject:

I can spar with them a little and just not tell them it was changed Twisted Evil

and... I am really beginning to wonder about WRV's quality of service... I mean, if I you are an experienced waverider do you want to be waited on and advised by a 17yo nitwit kook? Besides, there are alternatives... e.g., RK's and 17th St Surf Shop. RK's even carries Birdwell Beach Britches!!!
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