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Flippers and Swim Fins for Waveriding

Are they called fins or flippers? Fins or skegs? Back when I started riding the waves (1960s) life was simple: swim fins were called flippers and board fins were called skegs. These days both are called fins. Well... this page is about flippers. Information on skegs is here.

A good overview on swim fins is provided courtesy of eBodyboarding.com. Read another useful review by The Little Pink Shop at Croyde Bay [my link to the PDF version here]. Flexspoon has some information on Deet's newly formulated UDTs and the modifications made by George Greenough. More on the UDTs [PDF version, 500k]. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, on swim fins.

I was a long time user of Churchill's (when they were still made of rubber and had a more flexible blade). For years I searched the used fins racks for old Churchills, often buying off the rental bins. Eventually these venerable Churchills were no longer to be found and my collection was cracking and dry rotting from use and old age despite fresh water rinses after every session. After buying, borrowing and testing many, many different fins I have settled on two models:
Viper V-5 Flex (Orange Dot) model for warm water and Hydro Techs for cold water (to accommodate 4mm-7mm of fin socks). Ultimately, the "best fins" for any user depends upon many factors, including but not limited to surf style (bodysurfing, prone boarding, drop knee or kneeboarding), foot size and shape, blade flexibility, blade design, floating/non-floating, weight, and surge thrust. Also, feel free to visit my "rant page" on trying to find a pair of fins that didn't wreck my ankles or squeeze my feet. Hopefully by sharing my experiences others will have a better idea on what is best for them.

Did you know that Benjamin Franklin is credited with inventing the flippers and paddling gloves?

Read the interesting table of analysis on the relative thrust performance of various surf/swim fins (and web gloves).  The methodology, as posted to AS, is posted here.  By Alt.Surfing's "sdbchguy."

Here are links for some "flippers" or swim fins:

Notes on Other Items of Interest:  Fin Socks and Fin Tethers
A good selection of surf fin accessories and discussion can be found on eBodyboarding.com's site that I have reproduced here. Here are my
"a-b-c's" of fin accessories:

Use fin socks for protection!
For warm water wave riding, lycra fin socks should provide sufficient protection to keep your toes, feet and ankles from blistering. Sometimes you will need to move up to a heavier fin sock in warm water use that have open heals and are about .3mm to .5mm in thickness (thicker 1mm to 2mm models are also available but might make the fin too tight). Cool and cold water socks are made of the same materials you find in a wetsuit and are similar to ankle high socks. These wetsuit socks can be found in thicknesses ranging from 1mm to 5mm. Do NOT confuse wetsuit socks with booties. The booties' stiff soles will usually cause fitting problems with your fins.

I swear by fin tethers! When I first started bodysurfing and paipo boarding in the overhead, crunching surf of Puerto Rico's west coast in the late 1960s there were not many options other than using tennis shoe laces (that and my girl friend's old nylons as a "lycra sock"), or losing fins. The last time I neglected to use fin tethers was early one Sunday morning at San Diego's Big Rock, a sucking left breaking on a shallow ledge reef. I took off on a fun 4-footer, lined up in the tube very nicely, but the furball in back ripped by flipper right off. With no extras in my surf bag and a late morning flight to catch I was without option! Never again! Fin tethers come in a wide variety of string and nylon loops, narrow and wide ankle wraps, and velcro and plastic snap closures. I prefer the nylon loop (less ankle rubbing), wide strap velcros. Preference will vary, but if you find yourself riding cold water waves in cold air temps then I highly recommend acquiring tethers with long ankle wraps and pull tabs. Why? In cold water you need to wrap the straps around many millimeters of wetsuit/socks and the tabs are for easy removal when your fingers are freezing.

It might be frustrating finding your supplies at local surf shops. One good option is eBodyboarding.com and another is the river/kayak oriented company, NRS. Also, be sure to search the internet for your specialized needs.

Some users' random comments on fins:
  • "A friend has been using Duckfeet for a long time partly because likes the stiffness of the foot area and the flex of the fin area. Seems the new fins have a flexible foot area that she finds less effective. Any suggestions or alternatives?"
  • "I use XL Redleys. Stiff enough, with a bottom flow through hole that keeps the sand out. Looking for XXLs for the winter to put over 2 or 3mm socks."
  • "There are some very interesting new fins being made with the UDT Duck Feet mold - check on those, as they are being made with some varying rubber. Also, try several pairs of the Voit original Duck Feet - they vary as to stiffness. I find the orange/blue work well for me.
    Stiffness in fin blades is, to me, kinda overrated. As I have several sets of fins handy , I may have to repeat Terry Hendricks'  fin test with both
    stiff and less stiff UDTs to see what the real thrust difference is. I'd suspect very little and the comfort of a less stiff large blade fin ( as
    opposed to a small blade fin like a Churchill or Viper) sure is worth 10% thrust...if in fact there is that much difference."
  • "When I had back problems (and fins really exacerbate them) I was bodysurfing with very wide river rafting webbed gloves-and no fins. Now
    that I use both, it's all 2 stroke takeoffs, and fin stiffness isn't so important."
  • "Myself, I don't think really stiff fins are a good thing anyhow, providing the fins have enough blade to really accomplish anything. In fact, if one is using sizable fins, reasonably long, then stiffness might be a drawback; analgous to a question on surfboard fins and flexibility, when they bend they direct water in a direction that works better. With short, dinky, wide fins, well, that's another story, but that hasn't seemed to prove most effective. I think of Churchills and all that genre as great fins for people who don't use fins much. When I tried them, I found it was a lot like having no fins at all. But I started out with diver's fins and a paipo way back when and free diving well before that. I was used to large fins with substantial thrust."
  • "I have not used Duck Feet in over 20 yrs, after moving to the old compound Churchills (average foot area but flexi fin area).  The new compound fin are on Churchills is very stiff. I have tried Redleys (both the stiff and the flexible), older design Techs and something else but none were to my liking. There are several types I have not tried -- being in the water using them is different than getting fitted in the store.  Fins are likemany other things in life, people love some types and hate others."
  • In response to the statement, "Stiffness in fin blades is, to me, kinda overrated," a user replies, "Depends. Longbod bodysurfers in thick walls get good speed with fewer, more powerful  kicks. Short guys on thinner waves or in shorewhomp can get by with shorter, more agile fins. Kneelers and spongers can't get the usable power out of a long stiff fin because they're not kickingwith their thighs, so a floppy fin makes more sense for them."
  • What you need for flippers?
The balance to shoot for in flippers (besides comfort of course) is between long distance cruising i.e. paddling out and cruising the line-up vs acceleration/burst speed for spin and take off etc. Probably most mat surfers are using UDT's from Prof. Greg Deets. (parsimony@ earthlink.net), or Voit at 1-800-925-9283. Most people under 170 pounds or so cut them down following Greenough's modification. First flattening the ribs a bit then taking a little at a time off the length to hit their personal best compromise. Also many need to trim the strap a bit as they are very stiff overall and generally not too comfortable for most.

Regular DuckFeet and Vipers work ok. I have used them. But my favorites are Flips at www.flipsswimfins.com They are hand made by the man who designed them (John Piatt). Come in 3 models, the Original being the biggest and what I have. Much more thrust than DuckFeet, less than full sized UDT's. Super comfort and one size will fit everyone, barefoot, 7mil hardsole booties, and you tiny girl friend. They attach with an elegant strap and buckle set up that take a bit of getting used to but works well. They are super light and pack flat for travel; the strap set-up means no foot pocket. Downside is they take a bit of playing with to put on and take off so not so easy in pounding shorebreak over jagged lava/granite reef.

You do need lots of power as the earlier you can get planning and up and riding on a mat the better. You can do late take offs but they aren't ideal and if you miss can be disasterous for your mat. Bodyboard fins like Churchhills just do not provide enough power. Last week I watched someone in Santa Cruz repeatedly get in so late he just went down with the lip...left behind. And he is in pretty good waterman shape. You can catch waves but you will get lots more and have much more fun with biggah flippah.

Enough ramble. The surmatz forums are hereby baptized! Wink
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 by DrStrange
http://surfmatz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4
  • Just got flips swim fins last night and tried them out today. One very cool feature is one size fits all so arctic to tropics, you are good to go. Got the Originals (biggest) instead of the ProSurf model. Original’s blade about as long as Duck Feet to toes but the working part extends back under your foot so it is really longer. It also varies from 2-3 inches wider. Took them out in the surf and first thing I noticed was it is definitely burlier than the Ducks. I need to get stronger to fully utilize it; that’s what I was after in a new fin. Definitely easy on the feet but since it’s a bigger/stronger fin, moving more water, it is harder on psoas and quads. Takes more umph to get them moving and keep them moving. Caught a couple waves I might not have w/the DuckFeet and really noticed the lightness of the flippers for lifting them out of the water once up and running. Seemed easier to initiate dolphin kick with the Flips. Since I try not to use my feet to steer I didn’t notice if they were much different there.

    Only negative was that the straps kept loosening and I had to reach down every once in awhile and pull them tight. Easy to do though and that may stop happening once the strap material is broken in a bit. Oh, one other negative on the flips was that they are so light that I had trouble doing the small amplitude rapid flutter kick; couldn’t keep them submerged. The Ducks stay in the water easier. Likely for this reason, the Duck Feet beat the Flips by little in the rapid small flutter kick.
Follow-Up on Loose Straps: Talked to John Piatt last night (Flips maker). He said to prevent this from happening adjust front strap and slide foot out. Fold extra length of strap toward toes and then back UNDER the strap and insert foot. Tighten upper strap to where you want it, unbuckle it and do the same with the extra length--fold it toward toes and then back under the strap and snap the buckle. This way, foot pressure on the loose end locks it in place.
  • Well I jumped right in after seeing only a few posts about these and my flips fins Originals arrived yesterday. Tonight I put them on and went out in 2 foot waves and was pretty impressed. They're reasonably comfortable and pushed me through the water really well after about ten minutes of use. I too had to keep tightening the straps. The front toe strap is a little loose and seems to be at it's tightening limit. Some attention will have to be paid to those things. I really like how light they are. Sand and gravel flushes right out. I like them.
  • It's the UDT's that some consider "blanks" and if you handle a pair you will immediately see why. They are huge and heavy and stiff. IF you are a big, hunky hunka manhood you could likely use them as is but otherwise, a little mod will make them work better. When you're are using fins for surfing where you need long cruising ease and short burst power from same fins they are best tuned for your body size/leg length and muscle power. Duck Feet are shorter and softer. I like them a lot. Also I like Flips.  The the Original model is somewhere between Duck Feet and UDT's in power and though they take a bit of finicky finiking to put on and take off, they are very comfortable and one size will fit you barefoot or in 7 ml hardsole dive boots and also fit your 5' 100 pound girlfriend who wears a size 3 shoe. Plus they pack flat so travel well with a deflated mat in your suitcase or knap sack.
  • For cold water surf with fin socks and large feet (13 EEEEE) the only flippers that fit are the Churchill XXLs which I think say size 15-16 on the box.



Feel free to send me your own flippers/swim fin solutions and why they work for you.



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